Welcome back to insecurity. Now we've got cool and classy things because we're, finally, bringing you somebody that is cool and classy, and I know, I would say this one's a little different. But this one is super different, because we have an instructor at Purdue. We have one of her students ladies. If you would, hi I'm, Alyssa I, teach cybersecurity at Purdue I'm, a PhD student there and teaching assistants.
My name is Santa, Bates, and I'm, an undergraduate student studying cybersecurity and not that there. Was any pressure on Saint coming out here, but she did have a midterm today that she came to the show traveled across the country and still found time to work done. It. Does it get you ready for RSA or anything? Different? Um, personally, I think, so I actually she's my instructor.
So she gave the term, and it was for class. So I think that it will help a lot with any like CTS or workshops and I participated in this again, no additional pressure when the teachers like, literally walking around, just you while. You're taking the test every move, yes, she needs to be able to see our screen at all times.
So every five minutes I would just turn my laptop around make sure you get to judge a lot of different things, though at RSA, because in your what we call that your secret identity. Your superhero, you also run. Circle city.
Car. Do some shameless? Plug let's get that up? Yeah. So circle city, con it's, June, 12th and 14th in Indianapolis at the Weston this year, the Weston's been our home for a couple of years now and. We're a conference about 700 attendees with lots of villages, three, trainings, there's, no cost for trading. So Circle City con on our trainers are fantastic.
We've got a lot of hands-on villages and just like really cool. People hang out with now. Do you do concert outside? Obviously it's great coming out to RSA as a student are you looking to pick up any learning you can at any different type of show. So personally I, really like going to the cons I just started going rather recently, so I've been to too. Many, but I do have a lot on my list for this upcoming year, I'll be at con in May, Blue team, concert Silicon in June and hopefully DEF CON in August.
So I really do like opportunities. I can learn outside the classroom and kind of pickup on the little gray areas that our classrooms don't really go together as much, so circle back on that one, because we will do part two of this interview in Vegas in August and that's going to be as a student when you're coming in here. Everybody you we all want to. Learn new things, and you know, we're thinking, I've got this I understand what's going on here is there any technology that you're looking, and you're thinking that's thing, I would really like to talk to people about or is there some that like this is just pure hype I'm, not interested in this and there's eight million dollars being spent on, um. So I think a lot of my classes, personally, revolved around network, security and I think that that's a lot really important, but they do kind of just throw us. Into the poem don't really teach us how to swim with that I really want to go it's more like beginner steps, but that's, so I could really understand the process of how it works.
And so just immediately figuring it out on my own because classes in school is for them to teach you these things, so you're, not out there so rate, my professor live in front of the Internet. When you go from whether it's your con or some of the other I don't, want to call them regional, but they're, not like this big, massive. Thing and you look at their methods of instruction, what are your thoughts compared to how you might do it at Surf City con or even in the classroom, you know, the pros and cons of what you can get out of each different type of experiment? Well, I think what circumcision or another conference that you go to is everyone wants to be there. They've paid that ticket they've signed up.
They said, I want to dedicate my time to do this right? And as an instructor I assume, my students are here for the same thing. Even though it's 7:30 in the morning and I know, they're all exhausted, I, basically, treat them with that same curiosity to respect.
So if I see a student struggle on something, or if I see them really like something, even if it takes them off an entire path, that's going to like to distract them from what the assignment is, I'd, rather them find what they like and learn it. Then just sit there and complete a goal. So to me lab is a lot like the workshop rooms at Circle City con where people are just. Collaborating together learning new things and not taking it I have to get this deadline done - what do I want to learn. So I'm going to ask you the most terrible clich possible, you know that there are more open cybersecurity jobs than there are people on the planet Earth right now.
Yeah, yeah. We know that that part of it's not true. But when you look at your students, and you think about stats like that how much of that do you feel is just driven by whether its tech press, wanting to get the clicks. But the idea that the new breed of student is coming up by definition, they think faster they've grown up in technology this, yes, there might be three empty positions, but that could absolutely be filled by one and two thirds people. You know, we at that spot have we seen this type of savant that can get out there and just get the stuff done I think that there are students like that there are definitely some that I could tell like off the bat.
They already knew what they wanted. But I wouldn't have all. Say, those are the best people to hire I also thought take we've been looking, yeah. So I also work at a saw course. Sienna is an analyst fun enough when looking at hirable skills, those technical skills are great to don't, get me wrong. But we've I need the guy that can tell me what's wrong. I require the guy that can write a report.
I require the need the gal that can explain what's what's going on and not just here's all my technical jargon. What I found from the logs you don't understand if it's above you. With kind of things because we talk to clients all around the world, and you can't just go back to them and say, well, my report found this, so you're wrong. You'd be able to communicate and talk. And so why we do have a lot of gifted technical students I think something that we try to facilitate in our program is combining like those managerial skills and those technical skills, the governorship. And without that, the gap will always be present. You could always say, oh, we have more jobs than we have.
People to fill it that's great. But if the people also can't fill it because they can't fill your job? Well, you can't work with other people, it's useless. So we have students I. Think, oh I'll just I'll for sure get a job. It doesn't matter what my GPA is or what I do with my time and call it doesn't like that's.
Not true guys together for you coming out to this show is there anything specific? You've got your eye. And you want to, you know, talk to these companies or learn more about this technology or this. Person presenting, you know, what brought you to San Francisco is a terrible way to ask that top of mind for you this week.
So there are a couple of people aren't really looking forward to their talks. Cheryl has her talk here so does Alisa. So cubic speakers I'm really excited to see. We follow us on Twitter, both of them, fantastic human beings. But also just talking to other companies, keeping up what's going on I'm, always there to be like, hey.
So you guys hiring for interns like. I have something I can share with you try to like pass along those opportunities. So just stay up-to-date and it's. The perfect segue into shameless, plug. So whole world opportunity. If there's work people find use things think they think I want to know about you handles, any of that good stuff, oh, that's.
Princess, you're doing this. Princess I think I follow you. If you want to contact me formally I'm, Melissa, all SSA at Purdue I do look at that, even the full-on email, yeah, well, if you want to contact me.
On Twitter, I'm, scrum dentist, a 69, yeah, say, that's, slowly, scrum, dumpster, 69 all right. My name is Sienna I'm, an undergrad student at Purdue I'm soon to be grad student, soon-to-be, grad student or a PhD as you so nicely, put it earlier any projects anything that aside from server city con. You have to give the yeah, I was on that. Yeah, Circle City College in 12th and 14th Weston Indianapolis. We still have our room block open tickets are still on sale. So keep that coming the next thing for me is I'll be. Giving a talk I thought con this year so come find the interactive if you're looking for more information about us.
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